David kertzer the pope and mussolini6/28/2023 ![]() He's also the author of "The Popes Against The Jews: The Vatican’s Role In The Rise Of Modern Anti-Semitism." Kertzer is a professor at Brown University.ĭavid Kertzer, welcome back to FRESH AIR. He saw freedom of speech in of the press as incompatible with Catholicism.ĭavid Kertzer won a Pulitzer Prize in 2015 for his book "The Pope And Mussolini" about the secret relationship between Pope Pius XI and the Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. Pius also instituted the doctrine of papal infallibility. ![]() After the pope returned from exile without the Papal States to rule over, he was confined to the Vatican, giving the Vatican a new significance. There was no separation of church and state until a rebellion by Italian nationalists forced Pope Pius IX into exile, which led to the creation of modern Italy. He was the last pope to rule over the Papal States, which covered much of what is now Italy. My guest David Kertzer is the author of the new book "The Pope Who Would Be King: The Exile Of Pius IX And The Emergence Of Modern Europe." ![]() We're going to talk about a turning point in the history of the Catholic Church. ![]()
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